Tales From The Darkcast Crypt Keeper
Please enjoy this Halloween Special brought to you at the stroke of midnight by the Podcasts of The Darkcast Network-
Rainbow Crimes, The Final Trace, Missing in the PNW, The Book of the Dead, Mountain Murders, Mythical True Crime, Pod of Terror, Famous Last Words, Murder in the PNW, ATTWG, Day By Day, A Hateful Homicide, Rogue Darkness, Tragedy With A View and The Bell Witch Podcast.
Chapters:
- 00:30 - Welcome to the Crypt: An Introduction to Dark Tales
- 01:07 - Introduction to the Halloween Story
- 13:30 - The Cold Case Revisited
- 29:57 - The Halloween Incident: A Night of Violence
- 38:04 - Halloween Lessons and Ghost Stories
- 57:51 - The Downfall of Edward Gein
- 01:03:30 - The Ghosts of Flight 401
- 01:17:08 - The Trial of John
- 01:38:22 - The Investigation of Arpana's Murder
Happy Halloween and blessed Samhain.
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Transcript
Dark Cast Network indie pods with a dark side.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome to Tales of the Dark Caste Network's Crypt Keeper.
Speaker B:I'm your host, Jackie.
Speaker B:Join me for this heart stopping episode of Dark Tales from Dark Cast.
Speaker B:Please step forward into the crypt.
Speaker B:Carefully.
Speaker B:Keep your hands to yourself or they could end up being someone else's.
Speaker C:Don't touch anything and you might come.
Speaker B:Out of this in one piece.
Speaker B:I trust that everyone brought a change of clothes.
Speaker B:Yours may get soiled before this is over.
Speaker B:Let's begin our first story, shall we?
Speaker D:Hey, true crimers.
Speaker D:I'm Hopper Daly, host of the Final Trace.
Speaker D:Normally, I tell a true crime story to my best friend Mackenzie.
Speaker D:She's the one asking the questions you're probably asking at home.
Speaker D:Or the ones I never even thought of.
Speaker D:But tonight, for this Dark Cast original Halloween special, I'm going solo.
Speaker D:The story I have for you today isn't an urban legend.
Speaker D:It's the true story of the night Halloween changed forever.
Speaker D:I'm your host, Hopper Daly, and this is the final trace of the Candyman.
Speaker D:Every Halloween, parents whisper warnings.
Speaker D:Blades and apples, needles and snickers.
Speaker D:A stranger with a sweet smile and poison candy.
Speaker D:Most of those fears are just urban legends.
Speaker D: But in: Speaker D:This is the story of the Halloween that turned into a nightmare.
Speaker D:A story that haunted October 31st for over half a century.
Speaker D:Because sometimes the truth is darker than the myth.
Speaker D: ,: Speaker D:Deer Park, Texas.
Speaker D:Children dart from house to house.
Speaker D:Pillowcases and plastic pumpkins clutched in their hands.
Speaker D:The sight of glowing jack O lanterns on every porch.
Speaker D:Among them, Timothy O', Brien, 8 years old.
Speaker D:Excited, dressed up.
Speaker D:His little sister Elizabeth tagging along.
Speaker D:Their father takes them door to door, joined by a neighbor and his two kids at one darkened house.
Speaker D:No one answers the door.
Speaker D:The kids get bored and run ahead.
Speaker D:Timothy and Elizabeth's dad.
Speaker D:He waits, but soon he catches up, holding five long pixie sticks given to him from the occupant of the house that was slow to answer the door.
Speaker D:He hands one to each child and the last one to a child passing by.
Speaker D:They all add them to their candy haul and continue on with the night.
Speaker D:Later, back at home, Timothy is allowed one last treat before bed.
Speaker D:He chooses the pixie stick.
Speaker D:He struggles to get the powder out that had clumped together until his dad helps him out and loosens it.
Speaker D:Moments after swallowing the powder, Timothy feels sick.
Speaker D:He holds his stomach and begins to vomit.
Speaker D:He cries out, daddy.
Speaker D:My Stomach hurts before collapsing.
Speaker D:By the time they reach the hospital, Timothy is gone.
Speaker D:Tests showed that the pixie sticks were laced with cyanide.
Speaker D:Enough poison in just 2 inches to kill several adults.
Speaker D:Panic erupts.
Speaker D:Police scramble.
Speaker D:Parents tore through trick or treat bags across Houston, terrified that their children had been given deadly candy.
Speaker D:The press dubbed the mystery culprit the man who killed Halloween.
Speaker D:Because if one stranger was handing out poison candy, every kid was in danger.
Speaker D:Investigators rushed to track the source.
Speaker D:They questioned.
Speaker D:Neighbors retraced trick or treat routes, candy bags all sourced.
Speaker D:They finally recovered the other pixie sticks before any other child could eat them.
Speaker D:But slowly, the story began to shift.
Speaker D:The evidence didn't point to a stranger lurking in the shadows.
Speaker D:It pointed to someone much closer.
Speaker D:All of the poison candy traced back to a single hand.
Speaker D:And that hand belonged to Timothy's father, Ronald Clark O', Brien, 30 years old, an optician by trade, a deacon at the Second Baptist Church.
Speaker D:Outwardly a steady family man, but beneath that polished exterior, his life was crumbling.
Speaker D:The bills were piling up.
Speaker D:He was drowning in debt.
Speaker D:So desperate that he began quietly taking out life insurance policies on his children.
Speaker D:Small amounts at first, but over time, they grew.
Speaker D: me Halloween rolled around in: Speaker D:To Ronald, those numbers gleamed like a lifeline.
Speaker D:And on Halloween night, he convinced himself he'd found the perfect way out.
Speaker D:The chaos of trick or treating, the flood of candy, the faceless crowds.
Speaker D:If something went wrong, if a child got sick or died, who would ever trace it back to him?
Speaker D:That night, he slipped cyanide laced pixie sticks into the hands of children.
Speaker D:One for his son Timothy, one for his daughter, two for his neighbor kids, and one to a 10 year old he recognized from church, meant to scatter suspicion, to make it look more like the work of a deranged stranger.
Speaker D:But behind the mask of Halloween, the real monster wasn't in the shadows.
Speaker D:He was standing in plain sight.
Speaker D:A father who gambled his own child's life for money.
Speaker D:The only reason that no one else died was chance.
Speaker D:One boy fell asleep with a pixie stick unopened beside him.
Speaker D:Another couldn't get past the staple that Ronald had used to reseal it.
Speaker D:In the end, fate, not Ronald's mercy, kept the body count from rising.
Speaker D:A twist of luck, a quirk of timing.
Speaker D:And four children who never knew how close death had come crawling into their Halloween night.
Speaker D:Ronald was arrested days later.
Speaker D:At trial, prosecutors laid it all out.
Speaker D:The debts, the insurance, the plan.
Speaker D:The jury took less than an hour to convict him of capital murder.
Speaker D: In: Speaker D: ,: Speaker D:He was strapped to the gurney, a needle in his arm, the sterile hum of the machines replacing the chaos he had once unleashed outside the prison.
Speaker D:That night, crowds of people gathered in the night air, their voices cutting through the darkness.
Speaker D:They weren't there to mourn.
Speaker D:They weren't there to pray.
Speaker D:As the poison flowed into his veins, they shouted into the Texas night, trick or treat.
Speaker D:Ronald Clark o' Brien will always be remembered as the Candyman, the father who poisoned Halloween.
Speaker D:His crime became a legend, the fuel for whispered warnings passed from parent to child every October.
Speaker D:Candy bags dumped onto kitchen tables, wrappers inspected under the glow of a porch light.
Speaker D:Fear that the boogeyman was out there slipping poison into sweets.
Speaker D:But the truth is far darker than the legend, because there was no faceless stranger lurking in the night.
Speaker D:The real monster?
Speaker D:He wasn't hiding in the shadows.
Speaker D:He was standing in the doorway, holding his son's hand.
Speaker D:For more haunting true crime stories that linger in the shadows, follow us on Instagram and TikTok at the finaltrace Podcast.
Speaker D:Find us wherever you stream your podcast.
Speaker D:And remember, not all secrets stay buried.
Speaker E:Hello and welcome to Day by Day True Crime Stories, the podcast where we explore different crime or justice milestone from this day in history.
Speaker E:I'm your host, Cona Gallagher, and today is October 31st.
Speaker E: On this day in: Speaker E:Two men left a small house together.
Speaker E:The next morning, one man went about his normal Life.
Speaker E:The other 24 year old, Clifford Smith, was gone.
Speaker E:Days later, his wife filed a missing persons report.
Speaker E:A month later, two trappers found his body floating in a backwater pool off of the White river.
Speaker E:For more than 40 years, the case sat unsolved while rumors floated around bars and living rooms across Jackson County.
Speaker E:That is, until a new detective picked up the old file, reopened the story, and finally gave the Smith family the answers they'd waited decades to hear.
Speaker E:Today, we're talking about the disappearance and murder of Clifford Smith and the answers that took over four decades to find.
Speaker E:Let's get started.
Speaker E: ,: Speaker E:That night, a few friends had gathered at a modest house on East 13th Street.
Speaker E:For a few Drinks and a casual weekend get together.
Speaker E:Among the people drifting in and out that night were Cliff Smith, who was just 24 years old, and his brother in law, Ronald Jack Anderson.
Speaker E:As the night wound down, Anderson reportedly went to go fetch something.
Speaker E:Witnesses would later tell police that they saw him retrieve a shotgun loaded right there in the house and then walk outside with Cliff.
Speaker E:It was close to midnight when the two men got into a car and drove off.
Speaker E:And that was the last time anyone saw Cliff Smith alive.
Speaker E:By morning, there was no sign of him.
Speaker E:Sunday came and went.
Speaker E:Halloween passed.
Speaker E:Clifford's wife waited though, thinking maybe that he'd gone off with friends or needed time to cool down after some argument that no one quite remembered.
Speaker E:But as the days stretched on and the silence deepened, her worry gave way to full blown panic.
Speaker E: ,: Speaker E:Deputies started canvassing, checking the gravel roads north of town, knocking on doors and writing down the names of everyone who'd been at that East 13th street house that night.
Speaker E:But no one was talking, not about the shotgun or about Cliff leaving with Ronald Anderson.
Speaker E:Those statements would take decades to make their way to police because witnesses were clamming up.
Speaker E:There wasn't really anywhere for the case to go at that point.
Speaker E: ,: Speaker E:In a shallow, flood prone bayou, they saw something pale floating in the water.
Speaker E:When they realized what it was, they called state police troopers and a coroner waded in under flashlights.
Speaker E:The body was dressed in blue jeans, a black T shirt and brown boots.
Speaker E:In one pocket they found a wallet and an ID card.
Speaker E:It belonged to Clifford Smith.
Speaker E:The body was partially decomposed and the top portion of his head was gone.
Speaker E:An autopsy later found numerous pieces of buckshot and ruled the cause of death to be a shotgun wound to the head.
Speaker E:Local newspapers reported what little they knew.
Speaker E:Clifford had last been seen on Halloween.
Speaker E:His wife had reported him missing five days later, and now, a month after that, he'd been found dead in a backwater just north of Seymour.
Speaker E:Detectives mapped out the narrow, muddy lane leading from the road to the water, marking tire tracks, footprints, anything that might still linger in the soft ground.
Speaker E:They believe that the killer knew the area and the remote dump site wasn't random.
Speaker E:That suspicion only deepened as they traced the evidence back toward town and to the small house on East 13th street where Clifford had last been.
Speaker E:Seen alive.
Speaker E:Over the next several months, investigators interviewed witnesses, gathered physical evidence and followed every lead that they could.
Speaker E:But like so many small town murder cases in the early 80s, this one just hit a wall.
Speaker E:There were rumors about a fight, about money, about a gun, but no one gave them anything solid enough to take to a prosecutor.
Speaker E:So the trail went cold.
Speaker E:As years turned into decades, the case was passed from one detective to another.
Speaker E:Boxes of reports and evidence moved from shelves to storage rooms.
Speaker E:And for over 40 years, that was the end of the story.
Speaker E: Then in September: Speaker E: Inside were the original: Speaker E:Yellowed pages typed on old forms, black and white photographs of the recovery sites, and a list of every interview that had been done that fall.
Speaker E:He started reading.
Speaker E:And then he started over.
Speaker E:Unlike the DNA driven cold cases that make headlines, this one wasn't solved by new science.
Speaker E:It was solved by patience and persistence.
Speaker E:Maine re interviewed witnesses.
Speaker E:He tracked down surviving family members.
Speaker E: compared every statement from: Speaker E:One by one, inconsistencies fell away.
Speaker E:And this time, the picture began to come into focus.
Speaker E:A house on East 13th Street, a loaded shotgun, two men leaving together and one gun quietly returned later that night.
Speaker E:And it all pointed back to Ronald Jack Anderson.
Speaker E: By: Speaker E: ,: Speaker E:Detectives took 61 year old Ronald Jack Anderson into custody in his home in Seymour and charged him with murder.
Speaker E:The details hit hard in the small town.
Speaker E:Not only had Cliff Smith been denied justice for over four decades, but the man accused of killing him was his own brother in law.
Speaker E:Over the next year and a half, the case worked its way through the courts.
Speaker E: In April: Speaker E: smissed a month later, in May: Speaker E:For the prosecution, it wasn't about revenge.
Speaker E:It was about recognition.
Speaker E:After four decades, they could finally say what happened to Clifford Smith and who was responsible.
Speaker E: that began on a riverbank in: Speaker E:But at its heart, this is the story of a 24 year old man who never made it home from a Halloween Party.
Speaker E:And of all of the people who never stopped looking for justice.
Speaker E:But sometimes justice takes years.
Speaker E:Sometimes it takes lifetimes.
Speaker E:But on another Halloween, 41 years after the night Clifford Smith vanished, someone was finally held accountable.
Speaker C:Hi, I'm Courtney and I am the host of the Book of the Dead.
Speaker C:And this is the legend of the SS Ourang Medan.
Speaker C:Now, some of you may be familiar, at least in the abstract, of what the SS Ourang Medan is.
Speaker C:There is a video game by Supermassive Games called Man of Medan, and it is based on this legend, the story of a ship transporting chemical weaponry.
Speaker C:But the actual legend is without a doubt, stranger than fiction.
Speaker C:It may be one of the most mysterious ships of all time, and there is a lot of conflicting information out there, and we're going to get into why.
Speaker C:But supposedly, the legend goes as follows.
Speaker C: Sometime in the late: Speaker C:The message was received by nearby ships and they were extremely alarmed by what they heard.
Speaker C:The message said, all officers, including captain dead.
Speaker C:Lying in chart room and on bridge, probably whole crew dead.
Speaker C:This message was immediately followed by a series of Morse code that no one could make out because of how rapid the code was.
Speaker C:And then one final message came through and the officer said, I die.
Speaker C:Now.
Speaker C:Obviously, the ships that received this transmission were more than concerned for multiple reasons, and one of the main ones was that the crew members sending out this SOS gave no indication as to what caused the death of the crew, what their coordinates were, or what sort of danger these crew members were in.
Speaker C:So the ship sailing out to rescue them were going in completely blind.
Speaker C:According to what seems to be the original legend, an American ship called the Silver Star was the ship that answered the distress call and organized a rescue mission.
Speaker C:They figure out the approximate coordinates of the ship's location, and they immediately set sail into the unknown, not knowing what horrors could be awaiting them aboard the Ourang Medan.
Speaker C:Supposedly they arrive, and when they call out to the ship, there is no answer, no movement on the ship.
Speaker C:So the captain of the Silver Star organizes a crew to board the Ourang Medan and help them.
Speaker C:When this rescue crew gets onto the ship, they are met with a terrifying sight.
Speaker C:Not one single sailor is alive.
Speaker C:Everyone is dead.
Speaker C:And they are all exactly where the man that made the distress call said they would be.
Speaker C:The chart room, the bridge, the officer that made the broadcast is dead in the radio room, and every single person on the ship is lying there with their Eyes looking up, their faces turned to the sun, frozen in fear, their teeth bared in horror.
Speaker C:Even the ship's dog is dead, frozen mid snarl, according to the original legend.
Speaker C:Allegedly, as the rescue crew was looking around trying to figure out what happened, a fire was discovered in the bowels of the ship, smoke billowing out of the cargo hold.
Speaker C:The rescue crew abandons the ship, and as they flee back to the Silver Star, an explosion erupts so forcefully that the Ourang Medan was literally lifted out of the water before sinking to the bottom of the ocean floor.
Speaker C:But what happened?
Speaker C:How did the crew die?
Speaker C:And how did the fire start?
Speaker C:Is this even a real story?
Speaker C:Or is it a ghost story crewman made up to pass the time?
Speaker C:That morphed into a horrifying mystery.
Speaker C:According to multiple sources, there is allegedly no mention of a ship called the Ourang Medan in any shipping registry.
Speaker C: ord of this incident from the: Speaker C: rinted in newspapers from the: Speaker C:Now, one of the theories as to why there's no mention of the ship in any registry is because it's a ship that was registered as belonging to the island of Sumatra, which is an island off western Indonesia.
Speaker C:The reason people believe this could be a possibility is because Ourang Medan translates to man from Medan, and Medan is the capital of North Sumatra.
Speaker C: red a German publication from: Speaker C:This was written by a man named Otto Melke, and it is believed to contain evidence that the ship and what happened to it was a real vent.
Speaker C:Now, allegedly, this claims that the ship's cargo hold contained potassium cyanide and nitroglycerin.
Speaker C:If it did, this could explain the explosion, if the containers were compromised or mishandled in some way.
Speaker C:And it could explain why the ship's legitimacy is so iffy, because a ship would never have legally been able to transport something like that.
Speaker C:The reason being was because tensions During World War II, when this incident was supposed to have occurred, was very high.
Speaker C:And sensitive materials being transported and used inappropriately or maliciously would cause a lot of problems internationally, which is a reason why the ship's records are so hard to find or have never been found, according to Michael East, a history and true crime writer.
Speaker C:He said nobody came forward to say they knew the ship or had served on her.
Speaker C:Equally, the inconsistent Dates constantly stand out, as does the changing location.
Speaker C: n publications scattered from: Speaker C:Locations vary from the Solomon Islands to the Marshall Islands, and even the ship that tried to rescue them.
Speaker C:Buries researcher Estelle Hargraves.
Speaker C: Found quotes from the: Speaker C:These newspaper articles also claim that it was a British ship that attempted a rescue mission, not the Silver Star.
Speaker C:Articles found by Estelle Hargreaves in the Yorkshire Evening Post.
Speaker C: ident occurred in November of: Speaker C:In the Yorkshire Evening Post, their information is supposedly from an officer from an unnamed ship that tried to come to the Ourang Medan's aid.
Speaker C: ,: Speaker C:And the ship was supposedly an Australian ship that had been sold to a smuggler and was smuggling illegal cargo.
Speaker C:However, Michael east blames the changing details on a reporter named Silvio Shkreli.
Speaker C:Silvio Chiarelli is a name heavily attached to the Urang story.
Speaker C: Atoll in the Marsh Islands in: Speaker C:A Dutch Indonesian newspaper, Delokomotif, published this story where Silvio claimed he was told the ship was traveling to Costa Rica from a Chinese port because of the illegal cargo they were carrying, which was sulfuric acid.
Speaker C:Supposedly this survivor's name was Jerry Rabbit.
Speaker C:According to Jerry, he washed up on the shore of the Marshall Islands ten days after the Ourang Medan sank in a lifeboat with six other crew members.
Speaker C:But he was the survivor.
Speaker C:Rabbit made it to a missionary and reportedly told them that he joined the Ourang Medan's crew in Shanghai and the crew was loading 15,000 crates of mysterious cargo into the bowels of the ship.
Speaker C:He claimed that after they set sail to Costa Rica, he realized that this was a smuggling operation.
Speaker C:According to this report, Jerry said that after men on the crew started growing sick, he investigated what the ship was carrying and he found out via a logbook that the Crates they were transporting contained sulfuric acid, potassium cyanide and nitroglycerin.
Speaker C:After men started dying, Jerry escaped on the lifeboat and he allegedly died himself soon after telling the story.
Speaker C:The problem is there is no mention of Jerry Rabbit existing at all outside of this article.
Speaker C:This article claims the cargo was mishandled or not stored properly, and the escaping fumes caused the crew's death and caused the explos.
Speaker C:Now, toxic fumes killing the crew is the most common theory with minor differences.
Speaker C:Some claim the fumes alone killed them and some claim the fumes caused horrific hallucinations that literally scared these crew members to death.
Speaker C:Another theory points to a pirate attack, which, given the time this would have occurred, could have been a possibility, except for the fact that the bodies on board reportedly showed no injuries.
Speaker C: incident occurred either June: Speaker C:According to this article, two ships picked up the distress call from the Ourang Medan, the Silver Star and the SS City of Baltimore.
Speaker C:With the help of a Dutch ship and a British listening post, they were able to figure out the coordinates of the Ourang Medan and the Silver Star set out on a rescue mission.
Speaker C:The Ourang Medan was found around 150 miles from the broadcast coordinates.
Speaker C:Now, according to this article, the rescue crew noticed a few other things besides the deceased crew.
Speaker C:One of the lifeboats attached to the side of the ship was missing, which means, or at least implies, that some of the crew managed to get off the ship.
Speaker C:The temperature of the ship itself was somewhere between 100 and 110 degrees.
Speaker C:But the rescue crew felt an unnatural chill, seemingly coming from nowhere.
Speaker C:The bodies of the crew were unwounded, but they seemed to be decaying faster than they should be, though if the ship was that hot, it would accelerate decomposition.
Speaker C:However, there are some glaring issues with these dates for the articles claiming the Silver Star was the ship to come to the rescue.
Speaker C:It's not possible because the ship that was named the Silver Star was not called that until after this incident supposedly happened.
Speaker C:The ship was registered under the name Santa Juana and the name wasn't changed until the Graceline Shipping Company bought the rights to the ship's registry and changed the name.
Speaker C:In fact, the ship was only called the Silver Star for about one year before the name changed again.
Speaker C:Now, the Ourang Medan was completely undamaged, so they were going to tow the ship back to port to salvage it when they noticed smoke coming from the cargo Hold.
Speaker C: he U.S. coast Guard in May of: Speaker C:Another theory has to do with chemical warfare.
Speaker C:According to this theory, the Japanese might have smuggled experimental biological weaponry they created onto the ship for transport.
Speaker C:This was called unit 731.
Speaker C:And this theory goes on to say that the Japanese aimed to create the most dangerous weapon in order to achieve Japanese supremacy.
Speaker C: was developed in: Speaker C:The last mention of the SS Ourang Medan comes from a letter written by a man named C.H.
Speaker C: mark in December: Speaker C:This letter was written to Alan Duels, the Assistant Director of the CIA.
Speaker C:And in the letter, Ch Mark claims that he has evidence that the Urang Medan existed and that its demise came from great balls of fire in the sky.
Speaker C:And he wanted confirmation that he was correct.
Speaker C:But Mr. Duels only replied, thank you for your inquiry.
Speaker C:As for the final resting place of the Ourang Medan, no one has ever figured out where it sank.
Speaker C:There had been no wrecks found along the Straits of Malacca, and no identified ships matching its description were ever found.
Speaker C:No one knows or may ever know if the Ourang Medan truly existed.
Speaker C:But if it did, the ocean took its secrets to the very depths where no one may ever find it again.
Speaker C:I'm Courtney from the Book of the Dead.
Speaker F:Hi everyone, I'm Pat.
Speaker C:And I'm Darcy.
Speaker F:And we are the hosts of Pod of Terror.
Speaker F:Welcome everyone to the Darkest Network Halloween special.
Speaker F:A lot of really, really good stories for you.
Speaker F:The Spooky Halloween.
Speaker F:And we're here with one of those too.
Speaker F: Halloween night in: Speaker F:When the police arrived at an address in Winchester Aven, the paramedics were already there trying to help 49 year old Maria Adams.
Speaker F:There was lots of blood everywhere, broken dishes and free knives in the sink.
Speaker F:Maria was found face down, having suffered multiple lacerations and puncture wounds to her, the face and hands.
Speaker F:And altogether she had over 20 stab wounds and lacerations, some of which led investigators to believe that they had been carried out by someone holding two knives, one in each hand.
Speaker F:So think like fucking windmill situation when you're literally going at some point, right?
Speaker F:Yes.
Speaker F:So that's quite dramatic.
Speaker F:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker F:There were also injuries to her head.
Speaker F:So she was either stomped on or had her head slammed on the floor.
Speaker F:So really, really violent.
Speaker F:Unfortunately, Maria died almost a week later on the 5th of November.
Speaker F:All of this has happened because of a bag of Halloween candy?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:It's about to get weird, everyone.
Speaker F: ll Peoples met Maria Adams in: Speaker F:According to him, he'd give her money and gifts in exchange for sex, and she would sometimes spend the night at his place.
Speaker F:So I don't know the exact nature of this relationship, but it seems very transactional.
Speaker F:Of course.
Speaker F:But, yeah, they seem to have had, like, some sort of arrangement and they're two adults.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker F:Do what you want.
Speaker C:Do what you want.
Speaker F:Exactly.
Speaker F:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker F:So maybe she just.
Speaker F:Yeah, maybe she.
Speaker F:Honestly, I don't know what the fuck is going on here.
Speaker F:But, yeah, they knew each other.
Speaker F:They would kind of bonk and he would, like, give her dinner.
Speaker F:I don't know.
Speaker G:Right.
Speaker F:Standards.
Speaker F:Right.
Speaker F:So that Halloween, Liddell noticed that a bag of his candy was missing.
Speaker F:And he was really mad because it wasn't the first time.
Speaker F:Like, things would kind of disappear when Maria was around.
Speaker F:So he confronted her and she denied having seen it anywhere.
Speaker F:She was like, I don't know what you're talking about, mate.
Speaker F:You're tripping.
Speaker F:But to be fair, if my bag.
Speaker C:Of candy was missing, babe, I'd be upset.
Speaker F:There would be words at least.
Speaker F:Yes, for sure.
Speaker F:Yeah, 100%.
Speaker F:But, yeah, she was like, I don't know, mate.
Speaker F:Never seen it.
Speaker F:What candy you're talking about?
Speaker F:Well, he apparently found it in her coat pocket.
Speaker C:Oh, she did take it.
Speaker F:She did take it.
Speaker F:Well, allegedly she took it.
Speaker F:That's what he said.
Speaker F:So, yeah, it's unclear exactly, like, what happened here, like, how the fight started, but at some point, Maria threw a plate at Liddell and hit him right above his right eye.
Speaker F:And in the mag shot, you can actually see he's got, like, a nasty little gash above his eyebrow.
Speaker F:But, you know, is it.
Speaker F:It's possible he lunged at her first in the kitchen and she just basically threw a plate to defend herself.
Speaker F:We don't really know.
Speaker F:He claims some other things we don't know, but he claims that she threw it unprovoked.
Speaker F:Like, just randomly decided to throw a plate at him, apparently.
Speaker F:I don't know about that.
Speaker C:I don't think so, but.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker F:Okay, let's roll with that.
Speaker F:Right?
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:And that made him mad, apparently.
Speaker F:So he started walking towards her, and that's when she grabbed two steak knives.
Speaker F:He wrestled them away from her, and then he managed to wrestle her to the ground and began swinging the Knives aiming for the face, like, you know, with both his hands just literally going at it.
Speaker F:Yeah, no, absolutely fucking awful.
Speaker F:He stopped when she turned over and stopped fighting back.
Speaker F:When she just got quiet, he was like, all right.
Speaker F:It's believed that he then grabbed her by the hair and slammed her head into the ground three times.
Speaker F:She was moaning and he said that he didn't know if she was faking it or what.
Speaker F:You know, them bitches can't be trusted, can they?
Speaker F:Like, she dying or not?
Speaker F:I don't know, mate.
Speaker F:I just slammed her head a few times.
Speaker F:Did you know what I mean?
Speaker F:Right?
Speaker F:Whatever, man.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:So he wasn't sure if she was pretending, if she was.
Speaker F:Whatever the fuck he claims was happening.
Speaker F:I don't know.
Speaker F:He then stomped on her back.
Speaker F:Sorry, on the back of her head once more.
Speaker F:Grabs the biggest knife from the kitchen drawer and then poked her with it.
Speaker F:Basically like, you alive?
Speaker F:You alive?
Speaker F:Are you alive?
Speaker F:Just to see if she moves or if she talks or if anything happens.
Speaker F:Of course she didn't move.
Speaker F:Liddell considered dumping her somewhere outside.
Speaker F:He was like, oh, I can just kind of get rid of her, can't I?
Speaker F:She's just a. Whoever find a body.
Speaker F:But because they'd had sex earlier that night, like, literally an hour earlier, he thought that the cops would find him anyway.
Speaker F:They would connect it, like, connect her body to him.
Speaker F:So he was like, nah, I don't want anyone to think I raped her.
Speaker F:You know, he didn't want that fucking charge on top of everything else.
Speaker F:So he was like, I'd better just, like, you know, not do that.
Speaker F:Because, I don't know, I imagine thinking that his DNA sample or details were already somewhere in the police system.
Speaker F:That kind of line of thinking.
Speaker F:But, you know, also, you're gonna get.
Speaker C:That mad over a bag of candy.
Speaker F:You must have problems at full.
Speaker F:Do you know?
Speaker F:I mean, something's going on here.
Speaker F:I have no idea, mate.
Speaker F:But, yeah, she was like, no, I'm not gonna just dump her because I don't want another rape charge for something I didn't do.
Speaker F:Because I'm not that kind of man, you know, I'm not rapist.
Speaker F:Interesting that you went there.
Speaker F:So instead, he got dressed and he called 91 1.
Speaker F:When the police officers got there, they kind of thought that he seemed all right.
Speaker F:Like, he seemed together.
Speaker F:There was no dramatics, there was no theatrics.
Speaker F:He was just kind of, you know, just a guy.
Speaker F:Just a guy sitting on the front porch, basically, waiting for them.
Speaker F:Yeah, he was absolutely fine.
Speaker F:He told Them he didn't want to hurt her.
Speaker F:It was self defense, basically.
Speaker F:She was holding the knives, and when she hit him with the plate, he like, saw his own blood on his fingers and he really freaked out.
Speaker F:And that's when he kind of lost control and he kind of went for it.
Speaker F:Later during the trial, he claims that he didn't remember saying anything about all of that or saying anything about slamming her head into the ground or considering hiding her body, which is what he fucking told them when they first arrested him.
Speaker F:But he was like, I don't remember saying that.
Speaker F:No, I didn't say that.
Speaker F:If I don't remember it, it didn't happen.
Speaker C:My lawyer told me it was a bad idea.
Speaker F:So, no, I don't remember, innit?
Speaker F:And then he said in court that in fact, at the time of that incident, he was actually falling in love with her.
Speaker F:He didn't want her to get hurt.
Speaker F:He love her.
Speaker H:Yeah.
Speaker F:So Liddell was facing charges of first degree murder and aggravated domestic battery.
Speaker F:He pleaded not guilty because, you know, he was a self defense.
Speaker F:He loved her.
Speaker F:He was, of course, found guilty and sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Speaker F:And the sentence was then appealed.
Speaker F:Basically, his defense claimed that at 29, he was fired.
Speaker F:At 55, at the time of the incident, at 29, he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Speaker F:And so a psychiatrist's statement should have been allowed.
Speaker F:And they argued for a lesser sentence of second degree murder because of that.
Speaker F:That he was ill.
Speaker F:He was mentally ill. That makes sense.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker F:Well, in the end, the kind of.
Speaker F:There was a bit of, you know, pushing and pulling and all that, all of that.
Speaker F:But the courts decided that if it's irrelevant, actually, because the state of Illinois doesn't recognize diminished responsibility defense, they just don't fucking buy that.
Speaker F:They don't believe.
Speaker F:They don't do it.
Speaker F:If anything, they would have to go for insanity defense, which they didn't.
Speaker F:So, you know, they were like, we don't do that here, darling.
Speaker F:Bye bye for the next 30 years.
Speaker F:Liddell.
Speaker F:Good luck to you.
Speaker F:And the psychiatrist, Dr. Harlan said that Liddell suffered from schizoaffective disorder, paranoid schizophrenia, cognitive disorder and cocaine abuse.
Speaker F:And a very, very strong addiction to candy, apparently.
Speaker F:So there you have it.
Speaker F:A story about a man who killed his missus or whoever the fuck she was to him over a bag of goddamn candy.
Speaker C:I mean, honestly, at your grown age, you shouldn't be that sad.
Speaker F:It shouldn't have triggered this kind of fight, honestly.
Speaker F:Like, I'm sure it sounds to me like there perhaps was violence in this kind of scenario before, these sound like people who have some sort of.
Speaker F:They are damaged, I think.
Speaker F:You know what I mean?
Speaker F:But cocaine abuse, I'm sure that's not helpful in any case, anyway.
Speaker F:But, yeah, just a really horrendous how things can escalate over such a minor, minor thing that you would never even.
Speaker F:I mean, would you kill over a bag of candy?
Speaker F:I probably.
Speaker C:I don't think I'll be touching anyone's candy.
Speaker F:Keep your fucking fingers to yourselves.
Speaker F:The lesson from today, don't steal Halloween candy, because look how it might end up.
Speaker F:So that's our lesson for tonight.
Speaker C:Have you ever had your Halloween candy stolen?
Speaker F:No.
Speaker F:I mean, I don't really.
Speaker F:I've never really done it.
Speaker F:It's not a thing, really.
Speaker F:No.
Speaker F:Yeah, it's.
Speaker F:These days, I try to have a couple of baggies of candy and just, like, give it to the kids, but a lot of the time they just don't.
Speaker C:It depends on the area that you.
Speaker F:Grew up in, because there's some parts.
Speaker C:In London where they actually make an effort.
Speaker C:But it's definitely a very American thing.
Speaker F:It is, yeah.
Speaker F:It's not so big here.
Speaker C:But one time when we were kids, right, we went.
Speaker C:We really wanted to do trick or.
Speaker F:Treating, so we're like, come, let's try it out.
Speaker F:And then my little brother came with.
Speaker C:Me as well, and he was wearing, like, a really scary mask.
Speaker F:And the area we grew up in, there was zero Halloween.
Speaker F:Anything on there?
Speaker F:There were nobody in decorations.
Speaker F:It wasn't a thing.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we went to our neighbors, and.
Speaker F:One of our neighbors, we, like, most of them didn't even answer.
Speaker F:Some of them did.
Speaker F:And they were like, oh, no.
Speaker F:Like, they were giving us whatever they could find.
Speaker F:Like, biscuits first.
Speaker F:Eat them all.
Speaker B:Here's a nice.
Speaker F:Literally, they were like, oh, I had no idea.
Speaker F:I think one family were having a wedding.
Speaker F:So they had.
Speaker F:They actually sweets, and they gave us some nice.
Speaker F:Absolute.
Speaker C:Most people were just, like, trying to.
Speaker F:Like, felt bad and gave us things.
Speaker C:One time, one of the houses we.
Speaker F:Went to, the lady had obviously had no idea it was a Halloween or anything.
Speaker F:She's on the phone, she answers the door.
Speaker F:My brother's standing right there with the mask.
Speaker F:She fully, like.
Speaker F:She got so panicked, she fell to the ground.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker F:This is what happens when you do Halloween in places.
Speaker F:And then we were, like, super apologetic, and she was like, it's okay.
Speaker F:It's okay.
Speaker F:Now I have to find something to give you guys.
Speaker F:And then she just went running into her kitchen.
Speaker F:That just means the costume was great.
Speaker F:Yes, Candy, well deserved.
Speaker F:Thank you very much for that guys.
Speaker F:Thank you for listening.
Speaker F:We hope you enjoy your spooky, spooky season and enjoy all the other stories from Dark Cast Network.
Speaker F:Give all of them a go.
Speaker F:They're all fantastic.
Speaker F:We've been Pat and Darcy post of Pod of Seraph.
Speaker F:Thank you very much for listening and enjoy the rest of your Halloween.
Speaker A:Hey everyone, I'm Carmita and I host a podcast called Missing in the pnw.
Speaker A:I focus on missing person cases where right here in the Pacific Northwest where I grew up and all of my missing persons are from marginalized communities.
Speaker A:The PNW has some of the most haunted places.
Speaker A:Today I'm going to take you on a tour of three of the most haunted places in my home state of Oregon.
Speaker A:The first stop is Multnomah Falls.
Speaker A:One of the most popular tourist spots in Oregon is a half hour drive east of where I grew up in Portland on I84.
Speaker A:Going towards the Columbia River Gorge you will run into signs for Multnomah Falls, a 620 foot high, two tier beautiful waterfall.
Speaker A:It is the tallest waterfall in Oregon, the most hiked and draws nearly 2 million visitors per year.
Speaker A:But what many people may not know is actually has a haunted past.
Speaker A:My grandma actually told me and my siblings this story growing up as it is an old Native American tale and if you heard my podcast before, you'd know I'm half Mexican and half Native American.
Speaker A:The story goes that long ago a deadly illness ravaged a local native village.
Speaker A:An elder spoke to the tribe and said that the only way the illness illness could be stopped was by the sacrifice of a maiden of noble honor.
Speaker A:The village's chief had a daughter.
Speaker A:She took it upon herself to sacrifice herself to spare her people.
Speaker A:She climbed to the top where the waterfall now is and jumped off, giving herself for her village.
Speaker A:With that sacrifice her village was cleansed and the waterfall was created by a spirit so that her people would always remember her courage and so that the midst of the waterfall would cleanse and heal those who visited the site.
Speaker A:If you look closely, many people say that you can see the young woman's face in the waterfall.
Speaker A:Most commonly you can see her in the water in the winter time.
Speaker A:I've actually seen her spirit or the face of her spirit in the waterfall myself.
Speaker A:South I am now taking you to the Oregon coast.
Speaker A:Thirteen miles north of a little town called Florence where atop a 205 foot headland stands the 56 foot tall Heceta Head Lighthouse.
Speaker A:Over the years Many men would keep the lighthouse running, and just up the hill from the lighthouse was an actual house that their families could stay in.
Speaker A:One particular member of one particular family is said to have never left.
Speaker A:Many call her the Gray lady, but for the last couple of decades, she has been known as Rue R U E. At least that is the name a couple of Lane Community College kids gave her after they decided to play with a Ouija board in the house.
Speaker A:Good old Ouija boards, right?
Speaker A:Legend has it that Rue's husband was a lighthouse keeper and had two daughters.
Speaker A:One of her daughters unfortunately drowned, although it's not mentioned if her daughter drowned in the house or if her daughter drowned in the ocean while her husband and other daughter moved on.
Speaker A:She, however, did not.
Speaker A:And she's not a mean ghost by any means, but she mostly likes to play pranks on people.
Speaker A:She will rearrange furniture, move guest belongings, and she's even known to clean up the place.
Speaker A:Hey, who doesn't like a ghost that's clean?
Speaker A:She's not just in the house either, though.
Speaker A:With some sightings of her inside the actual lighthouse, that actually makes me believe that she's looking out over to the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker A:With that, I believe if the story is true, her daughter unfortunately died and drowned in the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker A:The last haunted place we are going is 300 miles from Portland and far eastern Oregon to a place called Baker City, which is home to the Grand Geyser Hotel.
Speaker A:One of the most prominent ghosts is the lady in blue.
Speaker A:She is believed to be a former owner possibly named Grandma Annabelle, who is seen in mirrors, walking downstairs and sitting in room 302.
Speaker A:Not to be confused by that creepy little doll Annabelle.
Speaker A:Totally, completely different.
Speaker A:There are also a bunch of sightings of many unknown male entities, ladies in red, and even a headless cook.
Speaker A:What would a haunted hotel be without some spooky sound, right?
Speaker A:Guests have reported hearing disembodied voices, a woman screaming, laughter, and footsteps.
Speaker A:Guests have also seen lights flickering, doors opening and closing by themselves, and objects moving on their own.
Speaker A:Now, not all the paranormal going on in the hotel is creepy.
Speaker A:Some of the workers at the hotel say that they can hear loud music coming from the upper floors and the attic, and they believe the ghosts are up there having a party and they just don't disturb them.
Speaker A:Guess you gotta have fun in the afterlife too, right?
Speaker A:That is all I have for you today, and I just want to give a shout out to CJ and all of my other dark cast members.
Speaker A:I'm so excited, excited to be part of this year's Dark Cast Halloween episode and I hope you catch Missing in the pnw.
Speaker A:I am on all the streaming platforms.
Speaker A:You can catch me on Facebook or Instagram at Missing in the PNW podcast and I will talk to you next time.
Speaker A:Guys, Happy Halloween and remember, have fun but be safe.
Speaker I:Good evening listeners.
Speaker I:My name is DJ and I'm the host of the Mythical True Crime Podcast.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:He was the second of two sons from George Gein and Augusta Gein.
Speaker I:Now the Gein's only sibling he had was an older brother named Henry Augusta.
Speaker I:His mother, who was fervently religious and nominally Lutheran, frequently preached to her sons about the innate immorality of the world, such as the evils of drinking and her belief that all women were naturally promiscuous and instruments of the devil.
Speaker I:She reserved every afternoon to read from the Bible, usually selecting verses from Old Testament to the Book of Revelation concerning death, murder and divine retribution.
Speaker I:Edward idolized and eventually became obsessed with his mother.
Speaker I:In La Crosse, Gein's father worked as a carpenter, tanner and a firefighter.
Speaker I:He also owned a local grocery store, but soon sold his business and left the city with his family to live on a 155 acre farm in the town of Plainfield, Wisconsin, which became their permanent residence.
Speaker I:Gein's father was known to be a violent alcoholic who regularly beat both of his sons.
Speaker I:This caused Ed's ears to ring when his father beat him over the head.
Speaker I:Augusta took advantage of the farm's isolation by turning away outsiders who could have influenced her sons.
Speaker I:Edward left the farm only to attend school, and outside of school he spent most of his time doing chores on the farm.
Speaker I:He was very shy.
Speaker I:Classmates and teachers remembered him as having strange mannerisms, such as seemingly random laughter, as if he was laughing at his own personal jokes.
Speaker I:Augusta punished Edward every time he tried to make friends, according to family acquaintances.
Speaker I:Despite his poor social development, Edward was fairly well in school, particularly at reading.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:Ed and his brother were doing odd jobs around town to help cover living expenses.
Speaker I:The brothers were generally considered reliable and honest to the rest of the community.
Speaker I:While both worked as handymen, Ed Frequently babysat for neighbors, seemingly to relate more easily to children than to adults.
Speaker I:Henry began dating a woman who was a divorcee with two children of her own and planned to move in with her.
Speaker I:He worried that his brother's attachment to their mother and often spoke ill of her around Edward, who always responded with shock and hurt.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:By the end of that day, the fire had been extinguished and the firefighters left.
Speaker I:However, Ed reported Henry missing with lanterns and flashlights.
Speaker I:A search party searched for the 43 year old Henry whose dead body was found lying face down.
Speaker I:Apparently, Henry had been dead for some time.
Speaker I:Didn't seem to be caused by the fire.
Speaker I:However, it did appear that the cause of death was heart failure.
Speaker I:It was later reported by a biographer that Henry had bruises on his head.
Speaker I:Police dismissed the possibility of foul play and the county coroner listed it as asphyxiation as the cause of death death.
Speaker I:The authorities accepted the accident theory, but there was no official investigation conducted and the autopsy was never performed.
Speaker I: he death of Bernice Worden In: Speaker I:George Arndt, who studied the case, wrote later in retrospect that it was possibly unlikely that Henry's death was sort of a canon Abel aspect and Ed was the one that carried out the murder.
Speaker I:With Henry deceased, Ed and his mother were now alone.
Speaker I:Augustus suffered a paralyzing stroke shortly after Henry's death and Ed devoted the rest of himself for her care.
Speaker I: Sometime in: Speaker I:According to Edward, Augusta witnessed Smith beating a dog and a woman inside the Smith residence came out and yelled at him to stop.
Speaker I:But Smith was went ahead and beat the dog literally to death.
Speaker I:Augusta was extremely upset by this scene.
Speaker I:What bothered her most didn't appear to be the brutality towards the dog, but rather the presence of the woman there.
Speaker I:Augusta then later told Ed that the woman was not married to Smith, so had no business of even being there, angrily calling her Smith's harlot.
Speaker I:She suffered a second stroke soon after and her health deteriorated rapidly.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:Edward, devastated by the death of his mother, in the words of his biographer, only had his friend and his only true love gone.
Speaker I:He was Absolutely alone in the world now, Ed held onto the farm and earned money again doing odd jobs.
Speaker I:He boarded up rooms used by his mother, including the upstairs and downstairs parlor and the living room, leaving them seemingly untouched.
Speaker I:While the rest of the house became increasingly squalled, these rooms became pristine.
Speaker I:Ed lived in the small room next to kitchen.
Speaker I:Around this time he began interested in reading pulp magazines and adventure stories, particularly those involving cannibals or Nazi atrocities, specifically concerning Ilsa Koch, who'd been accused of selecting tattooed prisoners for death to a fashion lampshades and other items of their skins.
Speaker I: In: Speaker I:He still worked occasionally at the local municipal rail crew and crop threshing crews up in Plainfield area.
Speaker I: However, sometime between: Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:The hardware store's truck had been seen driving out of the rear of the building at around 9:30am that day.
Speaker I:The store saw very few customers the entire day and some area residents believe that this was because it was deer hunting season.
Speaker I:Worden's son, Deputy Sheriff Frank Warden entered the store around 5pm to find the cash register open with bloodstains on the floor.
Speaker I:Frank told investigators that the evening before his mother's disappearance, Gein had been seen at the store and was expecting to return the next morning for a gallon of antifreeze.
Speaker I:A sales slip of the antifreeze was the last receipt written by Bernice Worden on the morning that she disappeared.
Speaker I:That evening Gein was arrested at West Playfield grocery store and the sheriff's department searched his farm.
Speaker I:The sheriff deputy discovered not just Worden's decapitated body in the shed of Gein's property, who was also hung upside down by her legs and a crossbar between her ankles and ropes at her wrists.
Speaker I:Her torso had been, in his words, dressed like a deer.
Speaker I:Warden had been shot with a.22 caliber rifle and the mutilations were made after her death.
Speaker I:Searching Gein's house, authorities found multiple artifacts such as a whole human bones and fragments of skeletons, a wastebasket made of human skin, human skin covering several chairs, a human skull mounted on bedposts, female skulls on top of some tops sawn off, bowls made from human skulls, a corset made from a human torso skinned from shoulders to waist, leggings made from human leg skin, masks made of skin from female heads.
Speaker I:Mary Hogan's face mask on a paper bag.
Speaker I:Mary Hogan's skull was inside of a box.
Speaker I:Bernice Holden's entire head was inside of a burlap sack as well as her heart in a plastic bag in front of Gein's pot belly stove.
Speaker I:Nine vulvas inside of a shoebox, a young girl's dress and two vulvas from two females judged to be about 15 years old.
Speaker I:A belt made from female human nipples, four noses, a pair of lips with a window shade drawstring and a lampshade made from skin of a human face.
Speaker I:These artifacts were photographed at the state crime laboratory and then decently disposed of.
Speaker I: ld investigators that between: Speaker I:In what he says he was in a daze like state on about 30 of those visits.
Speaker I:He said that he came out of that daze while at the cemetery, left the grave in good order and returned home empty handed.
Speaker I:On other occasions he dug up the graves of recently buried middle aged women and he thought resembled his mother and took their bodies home where he tanned their skin to make his paraphernalia.
Speaker I:Gein admitted that stealing from nine graves led investigators to him.
Speaker I:Alan Winomoski the state crime laboratory participated in opening three test graves identified by Gein.
Speaker I:The caskets were inside wooden boxes.
Speaker I:The top boards ran crossways, not lengthwise and the tops of the boxes were about 2ft or so below the surface in sandy soil.
Speaker I:Gein had robbed the graves soon after their funerals.
Speaker I:While the graves were incomplete, the test graves were exhumed because authorities were uncertain as to whether the slight.
Speaker I:Gein was capable of single handedly digging up a grave.
Speaker I:During the evening they were found as Gein described, one casket empty.
Speaker I:The other casket was empty, but contained a few bones.
Speaker I:And Gein's crowbar and a final casket had most of the body missing.
Speaker I:But Gein had return rings and some other body parts.
Speaker I:Thus Gein's confession was largely corroborated.
Speaker I:Soon after his mother's death, Gein began to create a woman's suit so that he could become his mother to literally crawl into her skin.
Speaker I:He denied having sex with the bodies he exhumed, explaining, quote, they smelled too bad.
Speaker I: th that year in: Speaker I:Her head was later found in his house.
Speaker I:Though he denied any Memory of the details surrounding her death.
Speaker I:The 16 year old youth, whose parents were friends with Gein, who had attended baseball games and the movies with him, reported that Gein kept shrunken heads in his house, which he described as relics sent by a cousin who had served in the Philippines in World War II.
Speaker I:Upon investigation by police, these were determined to be human facial skins, carefully peeled from their corpses and used by Gein as masks.
Speaker I:During questioning, Sheriff Art Schnelly reported assaulted Gein by banging his head and face into a brick wall.
Speaker I:As a result, Gein's initial confession was ruled inadmissible.
Speaker I: Art died of heart failure in: Speaker I:Before Gein's trial even took place.
Speaker I:Many who were Sheriff Art, who knew him said that he was traumatized by the horror that Gein's crimes inflicted on him.
Speaker I:And this along with the fear of having to testify in court, especially against assaulting Gein, who which caused his death.
Speaker I:Now Gein was considered a suspect in several other unsolved cases there in Wisconsin.
Speaker I:In November.
Speaker I:In 57, authorities confronted him about missing persons cases that had occurred between the death of his mother and that of Worden.
Speaker I:Their suspicions further aroused the discovery of Hogan's remains.
Speaker I:Lie detector tests exonerated Gein for many of those murders, but his psychiatrist concluded that his violence can only be directed to women who physically resemble his mother.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and found mentally incompetent, thus unfit for trial.
Speaker I:Gein was then sent to the Central State Hospital for the Criminally Insane, which is now known as Dodge Correctional Institution, Maxim's Security Facility.
Speaker I:He was later transferred to the Madonna State Hospital in Madison.
Speaker I: In: Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:A psychiatrist testified that Gein had told him that he did not know whether the killing of Worden was intentional or accidental.
Speaker I:Gein told him that he had examined a gun at warden's store and the weapon discharged and killed her.
Speaker I:He claimed to not have aimed the rifle at her and didn't remember anything that happened that morning.
Speaker I:At the request of the defense, Gein's trial was held without a jury with Judge Robert H. Galmer presiding.
Speaker I:Gein was found guilty by the judge On November 14, a second trial dealt with Gein's insanity or sanity.
Speaker I:After testimony by doctors for the prosecution and defense, Gallmer ruled Gein not guilty by reason of insanity and ordered him to be committed to Central State Hospital for the criminally insane.
Speaker I:Gein spent the rest of his life inside that mental hospital, judge wrote.
Speaker I:Due to prohibitive costs, Gein was tried only for one murder, that of Ms.
Speaker I:Warden, and also admitted to killing Mary Hogan.
Speaker I:Now Gein's house, the outBuildings and his 195 acre property were appraised at about $4,700, which is equivalent to about $51,000 in today's money.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:Early in the morning of March 20, the house was destroyed by a fire deputy.
Speaker I:Fire marshal reported that a garbage fire had been set 75ft away from the house by a cleaning crew who were also given the task of disposing the refuse.
Speaker I:Hot coals were recovered from the spot of the bonfire, but that was not the fire that spread along the ground from the location.
Speaker I:Arson was suspected, but the cause of fire was never officially determined.
Speaker I:It is possible that the fire was not considered a matter of urgency by the fire chief, Frank Warden, the son of Gein's victim, him.
Speaker I:Gein learned of the incident while in the detention center, shrugged and said, just as well, gains a vehicle.
Speaker I:The Ford sedan, which he used to haul the bodies of his victims, was sold at public auction for $760, which is about 8, $300 today.
Speaker I:A carnival sideshow operator, Bunny Gibbons, purchased the vehicle.
Speaker I:Gibbons was then later charged carnival goers $0.25 admission to see them.
Speaker I:The current whereabouts of the Ford sedan are unknown.
Speaker I: ,: Speaker I:Gein is interred by his parents and his brother in Plainfield Cemetery.
Speaker I: itself was stolen in the year: Speaker I: year and a half later in June: Speaker I:And since then, his grave site has remained unmarked.
Speaker I:Thank you very much for listening to tonight's story again.
Speaker I:My name is DJ and I'm the host of the mythical true crime podcast.
Speaker I:Good night.
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Speaker B:It's Jackie.
Speaker B:Did I scare you?
Speaker B:How are we doing so far?
Speaker G:Is everyone okay?
Speaker C:Do you need a doctor?
Speaker B:How about a therapist?
Speaker B:Let's see what else the crypt has in store for you.
Speaker H: In December: Speaker H:Second Officer Donald Repo was one of those people who perished, along with pilot Captain Bob Loft.
Speaker H:Though they died in the crash, they would continue to get on flights again and again, leaving Eastern Airlines Flight 318 feeling quite haunted.
Speaker H:Hi, I'm Kayla, host of Tragedy with a View.
Speaker H:And this is the Ghosts of Flight 401.
Speaker H:If you find that you enjoy this particular story and want more, I will be releasing a full in depth version on my show on November 12th.
Speaker H:I release weekly episodes of the misadventures and mayhem that occur all over the globe while exploring the outdoors.
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Speaker H:The flight itself went smoothly and when they began to approach Miami International Airport, First Officer Stock still lowered the landing gear.
Speaker H:As co pilot, this was his job.
Speaker H:On the dash, there are three lights for each of the wheel wells that tell the pilot and co pilot when the wheels are down and ready for landing.
Speaker H:But this time only the two rear wheel lights lit up green.
Speaker H:The front wheel light stayed off off, indicating that the land gear at the nose of the plane failed to come out.
Speaker H:Generally when this happens, there is something with the light itself that is faulty rather than the wheel.
Speaker H:And even when the wheel fails to come out with the push of a button, it can be done so manually.
Speaker H:This is nothing to panic about.
Speaker H:Captain Loft simply tells air control that he is going to make a loop around while they address the issue and then come back in for landing.
Speaker H:First Officer Stock still then turns the autopilot on to keep the plane at around 2,000ft of altitude and moving at about 200 miles per hour, so that he and Captain Loft are able to examine the control deck at the same time.
Speaker H:Donald Repo, who was the flight mechanic, would end up going down into the small compartment which sits below the cockpit to visually see whether the wheel has come down or not.
Speaker H:Captain Loft and First Officer Stock still figure out that it was the light itself that was faulty, as is common, and that the wheel was in fact down.
Speaker H: It was: Speaker H:He had noticed the ground coming up to meet them without Realizing that this is what it was, and Flight 401 crashed into the Everglades, it would be Bob Marquis who arrived on the scene first.
Speaker H:He was out frog hunting with his friend on a flat bottom boat when he saw the explosion from 401 hitting the water.
Speaker H:It took him several moments to comprehend what happened.
Speaker H:But when he made his way toward the accident, the sound that rose up was undeniable.
Speaker H:It was the sound of people crying out for help.
Speaker H:When Bob saw the first victim, he noticed it was a man in only about a foot of water, but he was struggling to keep his head above the small waves.
Speaker H:His head was bloody, and when he shined the light around the water surrounding them, Bob saw body after body floating in the water.
Speaker H:Some were still strapped into their seats.
Speaker H:But it would be the things that happened away from the wreckage.
Speaker H:That leaves a chill no one can explain.
Speaker H:Sadie Messina, the wife of Rosario, who was a passenger on the plane, was standing in the airport waiting for her husband to arrive when she heard his whistling of a song.
Speaker H:He loved this song and whistled it frequently.
Speaker H:But when she turned to find him, he was not there.
Speaker H:When the plane crashed, multiple people mentioned that they saw flight attendant Stephanie Stanish struggling out of the plane and then clumsily staggering her way through the swamp, which we will later learn was impossible because investigators found that she had died on impact.
Speaker H: In March of: Speaker H:While preparing meals for passengers, one of the flight attendants, Denise, went into the plane's galley to help heat up some meals.
Speaker H:In this area, there is a refrigerator and ovens.
Speaker H:And when she stepped into the space, she noticed that Ginny, another flight attendant, was no longer there.
Speaker H:She didn't pay any mind to this, though, and got to warming up meals.
Speaker H:Suddenly, she felt that she was no longer alone.
Speaker H:But when she turned around, she saw no one was there.
Speaker H:She thought that maybe Ginny or one of the other flight attendants was playing a trick on her.
Speaker H:And so she began to open all of the doors.
Speaker H:That feeling of not being alone only intensified when she found no one was there.
Speaker H:Then there are otter stories like that of a different flight on Flight 318, where SIS, a flight attendant, was making her way down the row counting passengers as they settled in for their flight.
Speaker H:She was doing this to quickly identify if everyone was on board.
Speaker H:And when she was done, she realized that they were over by one.
Speaker H:As she turned around at the front of the plane, she noticed a man in a pilot's uniform sitting in first class.
Speaker H:And she realized that this must be why they were off by one.
Speaker H:She assumed that he was deadheading, which is when a pilot needs to get to a different airport to fly a plane, and they will hop on one of the company's other flights to get there.
Speaker H:They don't really have to have a ticket or anything, and this was a pretty common thing to have happen, at least in the 70s.
Speaker H:But she still needed to be able to identify him and have him on the record for being on the plane.
Speaker H:She approaches him and says, hi, I'm Sis.
Speaker H:Can I get your name and are you deadheading?
Speaker H:And he just doesn't even acknowledge that she is there.
Speaker H:He is just staring directly at the seat in front of him.
Speaker H:She repeats herself.
Speaker H:And then another flight attendant, Diane, comes over and hears sis ask for a third time, but he still doesn't answer.
Speaker H:By now, the passengers are noticing that this weird interaction is going on.
Speaker H:So Sis decides that she is just going to have the pilot, George, come out and deal with this man who just won't respond to her.
Speaker H:When George comes out, he kneels down so that he is at the man's eye level.
Speaker H:And when he looks into the face of this extra pilot, he is stunned to see Captain Bob Loft staring back at him.
Speaker H:George doesn't know Bob because of photos.
Speaker H:He was good friends with Bob.
Speaker H:George is so surprised that he kind of falls backwards and exclaims, that's Bob Loft.
Speaker H:And everyone kind of turns their attention to George.
Speaker H:He's.
Speaker H:He's kind of on the ground.
Speaker H:He's fallen backwards on his butt.
Speaker H:And as they do so, the captain vanishes from his seat.
Speaker H:We all know how cramped planes can be, so people are a little bit worried at this point, and they're shaken up.
Speaker H:They end up delaying the flight and telling passengers to stay in their seats so that way they can search the plane for this man.
Speaker H:Many had clearly seen him, and they find nothing.
Speaker H:Eventually, they have a safe flight to their destination.
Speaker H:But this is just one of numerous reports about sightings of both Bob Loft and Don Repo that were reported over the years.
Speaker H:Eastern Airlines would eventually remove and replace all of the repurposed parts from Flight 401.
Speaker H:And this ended their sightings.
Speaker H:But it hasn't ended the stories of the Ghosts of Flight 401.
Speaker H:Thank you for listening.
Speaker H:If you want to hear more about the story or more of the ghost stories that have come from Flight 401, hop on over to Tragedy with a View on November 12th anywhere you listen to podcasts.
Speaker H:See you there.
Speaker B:Hey there.
Speaker B:I'm cj, host of Rainbow Crimes, formerly Beyond the Rainbow True Crimes of the lgbtq and I'm the founder of Dark Cast Network.
Speaker B:I hope you are enjoying the stories our fabulous creators have been bringing you so far.
Speaker B: appened on Halloween night in: Speaker B: The Place Charleston, S.C. in: Speaker B: existence known until the mid-: Speaker B:And then it was just LGB, adding the T. In the 90s, Charleston also had several bars and clubs that would be both both for heterosexuals and homosexuals.
Speaker B:These were called mixed clubs.
Speaker B:Oftentimes the mixed clubs they saw much more of a clientele than the gay only clubs.
Speaker B:The reason being people were scared.
Speaker B:If they were gay, lesbian or bisexual and their employer found out, it could result in losing their job.
Speaker B:That is why the most closeted and curious individuals stuck only to the mixed club.
Speaker B:29 year old Jack Dobbins was a supervisor for a chemical company, but in the evenings he would often volunteer his time bartending at Club 49.
Speaker B:Club 49 was a mixed club.
Speaker B:Jack was gay and as opened about his sexuality as he dared be.
Speaker B: In: Speaker B:Jack shared his home, a pink stucco house on Queen street, with another young man named Edward Oti.
Speaker B:The men were more than just roommates.
Speaker B:They were friends too, just not romantically involved with each other.
Speaker B: On Halloween night: Speaker B:Jack would leave the party somewhat early as he had promised a bartend at Club 49 that night.
Speaker B:As you can probably imagine, clubs on Halloween night were poppin and jam full of people in costumes.
Speaker B:Oh, some wore their regular attire.
Speaker B:Some may have even been scantily clad.
Speaker B:Although it was the late 50s, nothing like the costumes and shock type clothing we wear today.
Speaker B:Club 49 also had a large crowd that night.
Speaker B:18 year old John Mahone walked into the club at some point during the evening.
Speaker B:John was an airman with the United States Air Force.
Speaker B:He didn't have much money with him, but he had enough for a beer or two.
Speaker B:He sidled up to the bar and he ordered.
Speaker B:Jack was immediately taken with how attractive John was.
Speaker B:The two engaged in some conversation.
Speaker B:After a bit, Jack began serving John beers on the house.
Speaker B:House A few Hours later, around 2am Jack's shift was nearly over and John was still at the bar.
Speaker B:Jack thought he and John were vibing and he was into it.
Speaker B:He invited John to go to another bar.
Speaker B:John agreed to, but said he didn't have much money on him.
Speaker B:Jack laughed and shoved some dollar bills into John's pocket.
Speaker B:As the two headed off to another bar, Jack wanted to take John somewhere upscale, so they went to the Elbow Cocktail Lounge.
Speaker B:However, when they got to the door, the men were denied entrance because John's blue jeans and leather jacket did not coincide with the lounge's strict dress code.
Speaker B:Jack shrugged and told John, why don't you just come back to my place?
Speaker B:The bourbon there is much better than it would be here anyway.
Speaker B:John said, lead the way.
Speaker B:And the two men walked to the pink house on Queen Street.
Speaker B:Jack's roommate Edward was already upstairs in bed by the time Jack and John entered the residence.
Speaker B:Jack went into the kitchen to make some drinks.
Speaker B:Early the following morning, Elizabeth, the housekeeper of the pink stucco house on Queen street, she used her key to let herself in.
Speaker B:To her horror, she found Jack lying naked on the living room couch.
Speaker B:He had dried blood stuck to his head.
Speaker B:Jack was holding a candlestick against his chest.
Speaker B:Elizabeth quickly called the police.
Speaker B:After the police arrived and inspected the crime scene, they spoke to both the housekeeper and to Edward, the roommate.
Speaker B:Edward had slept throughout the night and he hadn't awoken to any sounds coming from the house.
Speaker D:House.
Speaker B:Now, don't forget, Edward was at a party before coming back home.
Speaker B:So he might have also been intoxicated going back a little bit to that prior night.
Speaker B:Upon leaving Jack's house, John went back to his Air Force barracks.
Speaker B:He bragged about how he had beaten and robbed a queer to some of his fellow airmen.
Speaker B:He showed them his bounty.
Speaker B:He got a lighter, a key and $23.
Speaker B:That was his big haul.
Speaker B:But later that day, John saw in the newspaper the headline read the Candlestick Murder.
Speaker B:Below was a picture of Jack Dobbin sitting in a chair reading a book.
Speaker B:John saw it was the man who had been so nice to him on Halloween night.
Speaker B:The man who had provided him with free beers, given him some cash and invited him back to his home.
Speaker B:That man had died, John was sure when he left Jack's house, it only hit him enough to make him unconscious, not to kill him.
Speaker B:But John ended up turning himself into authorities.
Speaker B:At John's trial, his account of what happened that night from the time they got back to Jack's place went something like this.
Speaker B:John sat on the couch in the living room while Jack went in the kitchen and poured each of them a highball glass of whiskey.
Speaker B:Jack came back out of the kitchen with the drinks and he sat on the couch next to John.
Speaker B:Jack then began to make some uncomfortable comments to John.
Speaker B:John excused himself to use the bathroom.
Speaker B:When he came out of the bathroom, he found Jack standing naked in the living room.
Speaker B:Jack said, come over here John.
Speaker B:John said he panicked and ran up the stairs trying to look for an escape.
Speaker B:He went into Jack's room and he grabbed one of two two and a half foot long candlesticks.
Speaker B:Then he made his way back downstairs.
Speaker B:He told Jack, I, I just want to leave.
Speaker B:He stated Jack made another sexual advance towards him.
Speaker B:So he started to swing the candlestick at Jack's head and he made contact three or four times until Jack fell backwards onto the couch into what John figured was just an unconscious state.
Speaker B:And then he got the hell out of there and he went back to his base.
Speaker B:Many have questioned if John was so freaked out by being hit on or even around a gay man, why in the first place would he even go to a bar with mixed clientele?
Speaker B:There were an abundance of straight bars he could have went to.
Speaker B:Why did he stick around so long at the bar after he bought the one or two beers that he could afford?
Speaker B:Why not just leave after his money ran out?
Speaker B:Why agree to follow a man, a man he just met, to the man's home?
Speaker B:He must have known what Jack was after and why would he run upstairs to escape?
Speaker B:Why don't he just go through the front door that he came in?
Speaker B:And why not just threaten to hit Jack with the candlestick and safely see himself out the door?
Speaker B:Something more must have been going on other than what John offered up as his story.
Speaker B:John would be arrested and charged with Jack's murder.
Speaker B:At his trial he would have an all male jury.
Speaker B:The prosecution went after the death penalty claiming John committed murder during a botched robbery.
Speaker B:After three days of the court proceedings, the jury came back with a not guilty verdict citing that the victim was a deviant and John was freed.
Speaker B:I sure hope the ghost of Jack haunted John and that jury for the rest of their days.
Speaker B:This has been cj, host of Rainbow Crimes on the Dark Cast network.
Speaker B:Happy Halloween everyone.
Speaker J:Greetings my dear witches and spooky listeners.
Speaker J:This is a bonus haunted episode for Halloween or Samhain as us witches know it to be.
Speaker J:From Swales, the friendly green witch of the Bell Witch podcast.
Speaker J:Today I'm going to tell you about a Gruesome haunting at a Britannia hotel.
Speaker J:I actually have had the pleasure in staying in twice whilst doing a spot of ghost hunting.
Speaker J:It is true, I heard knocks and creaks and saw flashing lights on the gizmos and gadgets.
Speaker J:In some rooms there is a feeling of being watched and a foreboding sense when you go to touch the piano in the grand hall.
Speaker J:It does make me think, oh, perhaps I shouldn't do that.
Speaker J:Bosworth hall in Market Bosworth in Leicestershire uk.
Speaker J:A beautiful grand manor house with huge staircases and detailed paintings of those that may haunt the halls today.
Speaker J:If you imagine a stately home, you will envision this beautiful place with its mahogany detailed banisters and beautiful decord rooms.
Speaker J:It is a very impressive place.
Speaker J:A courtyard with a charming woods surrounding beautiful grates and strangely, a prison door within one of the bars.
Speaker J:That is an actual door from a local prison.
Speaker J:The neighboring structure is a 700 year old church complete with gargoyles and grotesques of different natures.
Speaker J:A graveyard of old accompanies the church and is indeed in need of a little tlc.
Speaker J:The quaint little town of Market Boswell is a horse to thatched roof houses and even a building where children's fingerprints have been fired within the structure of the bricks, giving it a foreboding, haunted feeling from those kids who perhaps died in the fire as they made the bricks in Victorian slave labour.
Speaker J:It is not a surprising setting for perhaps a genuine haunting.
Speaker J:Some say if you walk the grounds of Bosworth hall on a still autumn night, when the mist clings low to the earth and the wind dares not whisper through the trees, you might hear her, the light, almost mournful footsteps on the grand staircase.
Speaker J:And if you're truly unlucky, you might see her take a breath.
Speaker J:For this is the spectre or the ghost that is known locally as the Great lady of Bosworth Hall.
Speaker J:She is said to wander the corridors of Bosworth hall at night as if time had forgotten her.
Speaker J:And perhaps it has, for she has walked them for over 200 years, trapped between this world and the next.
Speaker J:Bosworth hall, nestled in the Leicestershire countryside, has stood here since the 70s century, its ivy covered facade hiding centuries of secrets.
Speaker J:And although it has had many a doo up buildings added, transformed and altered throughout the times, it still hasn't changed.
Speaker J:In its strange dark vibes, it was once the proud seat of the Dixie family, a line of baronets with wealth, status and whispers of scandal.
Speaker J:One such whisper was that of Lady Dixie, believed to be the spirit of the Grey Lady.
Speaker J:Today her name was Anne.
Speaker J:Some say she was the wife of one of the younger baroness.
Speaker J:Others say she was the daughter of the Sir Wolsten Dixie of the manor.
Speaker J:We'll never know for sure.
Speaker J:Young sweet Anne Dixie, who arrived at the hall full of hope, only to find herself ensnared in a lonely, loveless marriage.
Speaker J:Sir Walston Dixie, her husband, or an unloving father, was a stern, controlling man, a magistrate known for his cruel justice and cold demeanour.
Speaker J:The locals feared him.
Speaker J:His servants obeyed him without question.
Speaker J:And Anne?
Speaker J:She suffered in silence.
Speaker J:Some say she fell in love with another, perhaps a tutor, a stable hand or a gardener.
Speaker J:A forbidden romance that, when discovered, ended in tragedy.
Speaker J:When her husband struck, father found out of this forbidden love.
Speaker J:He was horrified and outraged and set a series of man traps throughout his stately home in secret, hoping to snare the unsuspecting snake in the grass that was taking this young woman away from him.
Speaker J:Was it a bear trap?
Speaker J:An automatic crossbow?
Speaker J:A hole to fall in?
Speaker J:Perhaps a mechanism to impale the poor, unsuspecting human?
Speaker J:Nobody knows for sure because there are no records.
Speaker J:But it went bad, as these things often do when, unfortunately, the trap snapped close, not on the unsuspecting young man, but actually on Anne herself, desperately and fighting for her life.
Speaker J:Seeking help, she crawled up the stairs of the manor house, calling out people's names, servants names.
Speaker J:Nobody seemed to hear her.
Speaker J:Poor ad.
Speaker J:It appeared she was completely alone, desperately seeking assistance.
Speaker J:It is said that she crawled up the staircases on her hands, dragging her broken body behind her, leaving a long streak of blooded carpet as she went, desperate to cling on to her life, she found herself in her room, lay on her bed and prayed somebody would rescue, find her, assist her in this devastating situation.
Speaker J:Some say she died instantly, while others say she were left for some time, suffering in absolute agony, desperately clinging on to her soul.
Speaker J:It must have been hell.
Speaker J:Could it have been hours?
Speaker J:Could it have been days?
Speaker J:Others tell it differently, that she died of sorrow, alone in her room, abandoned by a man who saw only hairs, not affection.
Speaker J:But all these tales end the same, with her spirit cloaked in a soft grey gown, gliding through the halls, searching for her lost love that never came to her rescue, or sat by her side as her poor soul slipped away.
Speaker J:The guests at Bosworth hall, now a Britannia Hotel, and a delightful wedding venue with a very nice spa, have reported cold spots in otherwise warm rooms, the sudden scent of lavender where no flowers grow, and the feeling unmistakable of being watched, whether by the Grey lady or the evil man that set the traps.
Speaker J:There has been reports that strange blotches appear on the ceiling and on carpets that resemble something like blood.
Speaker J:Dark slime that cannot be removed and can disappear just as it has appeared.
Speaker J:That's there and then gone.
Speaker J:Guests catch something at the corner of their eye on the ceiling or on the floor.
Speaker J:And when they turn to look, well, there's nothing there.
Speaker J:A housekeeper once told of entering room 7 to prepare it for the night next guest only to find the bed had already been disturbed and an imprint on the pillow as though someone had just risen.
Speaker J:The windows were locked.
Speaker J:The door had been bolted from the inside, although it hadn't been used the night before.
Speaker J:But the room was occupied by someone or something.
Speaker J:Another guest claimed to see a pale woman in the hallway in the middle of the night.
Speaker J:She did not speak.
Speaker J:She only stared, eyes dark and sorrowful with longing before she turned and vanished through the wall.
Speaker J:They say she appears most often on October nights when the moon is high and the veil is thin between the worlds.
Speaker J:And if you ever stay in Bosworth hall, as I have done on two occasions now, and wake in the dark to the sound of sobbing, don't rise, don't open your door.
Speaker J:And above all, don't follow the footsteps as they descend up the grand staircase.
Speaker J:Because once she knows you can see.
Speaker C:Her.
Speaker J:She may never leave you alone.
Speaker J:I see you, this grey lady of the stately home.
Speaker J:Bosworth Hall.
Speaker A:The Pacific Northwest is a geographically diverse region of the U.S. and Canada, characterized.
Speaker B:By its majestic mountains, dense forest, rugged coastlines and deep river canyons.
Speaker A:But it has also been the home of many who kill.
Speaker A:Thank you for joining me, Carmita.
Speaker B:And me, CJ for murder in the pnw.
Speaker B:Hey, Carmita.
Speaker B:This camera case is unresolved.
Speaker B:Law enforcement thought that they had her killer in custody and nine years later the guy gets acquitted.
Speaker B:But we'll get more into that as our case evolves.
Speaker B:24 year old immigrant from India and recent college graduate, Arpana Janaga.
Speaker B:She seemed to have her life together.
Speaker B:She was a software engineer for Dell Computers in Bellevue, Washington, which is just across the lake from Seattle.
Speaker B:She had a degree, a good job, her own apartment.
Speaker B:She volunteered at a local animal shelter, she volunteered at a fire department.
Speaker B:And she had a load of friends from all the places and all the things that she was involved in.
Speaker B:Arpana also loved riding her motorcycle, which made her something of a free spirit.
Speaker B:It Dell Computers, the company that she was employed by.
Speaker B:They said she was very talented, that she was very bright and she was very outgoing in a rising star girl.
Speaker A:Was making that money for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah, she was young, beautiful and making that money.
Speaker A:Go queen.
Speaker A: Well on Halloween night: Speaker A:Attendees were mostly other people who lived in the building.
Speaker A:They would filter in and out of the host apartments, sharing their costumes, eating, drinking, intermingling and such at different intervals during the night.
Speaker A:There were however, at least a dozen or so people who did not live in the complex that came to enjoy the festivities.
Speaker A:As you know, most places with parties that happen, the guests in Arpana's apartment would leave a little after 9pm to go to another apartment host's party.
Speaker A:Arpana intern would lock her door when her apartment was cleared and go join the other parties too.
Speaker A:This went on until the early hours of the morning.
Speaker B:Sometime around 3am Arpana decided that it was time for her to go home and go to sleep.
Speaker B:She bit her friends at the apartment on the first floor goodbye and she headed back upstairs to her third floor apartment.
Speaker B:Sometime between 3am and 8am, Arpana's nearby neighbors were awoken to moaning sounds coming from Arpana's apartment.
Speaker B:They went back to sleep assuming that she and a partner were having consensual sex.
Speaker B:But around 8am her neighbor right next door heard an eerie growl that lasted nearly 20 seconds and then they heard a thud.
Speaker B:They then heard footsteps and water running for almost an hour.
Speaker B:The neighbor didn't think too much about it and went about their day.
Speaker A:On Monday, November 3, Arpana didn't show up for work and her parents in India were worried when they couldn't reach their daughter by phone all weekend.
Speaker A:They asked a family friend named Jay if he would go by and check on Arpana.
Speaker A:Jay went to her apartment complex where he bumped into one of Arpana's neighbors, a man named Cameron Johnson.
Speaker A:Jay asked Cameron if he knew Arpana and if he'd direct him to her apartment.
Speaker A:Cameron willingly obliged.
Speaker A:The stranger and the two men walked to Arpana's un.
Speaker A:At very first sight, the two men noticed Arpana's door appeared to have been forcibly kicked in.
Speaker A:They proceeded to enter.
Speaker A:Once inside, they walked around and then into Arpana's bedroom.
Speaker A:Her naked body lay face down on the carpet of her room.
Speaker A:She had been partially covered with the cloth.
Speaker A:Arpana had been gagged with her own underwear shoved into her mouth and duct taped over it.
Speaker A:She appeared to have been beaten about her head.
Speaker A:There was a thin ligature mark around her neck, and there was strong evidence she had been raped.
Speaker B:Arpana's hands were covered in blue toilet bowl cleaner.
Speaker B:Motor oil had been poured over her body.
Speaker B:Her fingers and fingernails had been cleaned, removing any defensive DNA that could have been under her nails.
Speaker B:She had burn marks here and there on her body, suggesting that someone had tried to light her on fire.
Speaker B:But they were unsuccessful.
Speaker B:Arpana's bed had been stripped.
Speaker B:Her comforter was soaking in bleach in the bathtub, and a fleece blanket had been partially burned.
Speaker B:The apartment reeked of bleach, and there were bleach spots all around in various areas of her rooms.
Speaker B:Police searched not just Arpana's residence, but the complex's trash dumpster.
Speaker B:Also there they found a bag containing Arpana's Halloween costume, a bloodied robe, an empty quart bottle of motor oil, and a shoelace from a boot.
Speaker B:This was assumed to have been the murder weapon.
Speaker A:Detectives quickly got busy interviewing residents at the complex.
Speaker A:They asked for pictures taken that night.
Speaker A:From the pictures, they were able to find a scattering of the people who didn't live at the complex.
Speaker A:They discovered names of the non residents and one became a person of interest.
Speaker A:A man named Emmanuel Fair had been staying with someone who did live in an apartment there.
Speaker A: nses and a rape conviction in: Speaker A:Another person of interest also caught their eye.
Speaker A:Neighbor Cameron Johnson, the guy who led Arpana's family friend Jay to her apartment.
Speaker A:Apparently, Cameron had a big crush on Arpana and he had done some odd things after Arpana was murdered.
Speaker A:There was a record he had called Arpana around 3am Then he tried to scrub that evidence from his phone.
Speaker A:But he told detectives he didn't remember making that call.
Speaker A:He also told detectives on November 1, he drove to Canada but was denied entry.
Speaker B:Cameron's computer showed a search of pawn shops near the U.S. canadian border.
Speaker B:When he went to the police station for questioning, the cops took notice of Cameron limping and favoring one elbow.
Speaker B:He quickly told law enforcement it was due to an arm wrestling incident.
Speaker B:But probably one of the weirdest things from Cameron was that he asked family members and close friends, what if I did the murder and I just don't remember?
Speaker B:Emmanuel and Cameron did talk the night of the Halloween party.
Speaker B:They even went and sat in Cameron's car for a bit to listen to music.
Speaker B:Emmanuel stated that he Went back to his friend's apartment around 1:30am but his phone records show that he was making phone calls between 2 and 5am including some to the woman whose apartment he was staying at.
Speaker A:DNA from three males were found at the scene of the crime, but Arpana did have guests there for the party.
Speaker A:Two sets of DNA belonged to Emanuel and Cameron.
Speaker A:Emanuel's DNA was found on Arpana's neck, neck and on the piece of duct tape that covered her mouth.
Speaker A:It was found mixed with her blood on the bathrobe that was tossed into a bag in the dumpster.
Speaker A:Cameron's DNA was found on the discarded bottle of motor oil that was also found in the bag in the dumpster.
Speaker A:It was reported in the Seattle Times.
Speaker A:An unknown male DNA was found on the shoelace case from the boot.
Speaker B: arged with arpana's murder in: Speaker B: case didn't go to trial until: Speaker B:And then the jury deadlocked and the affair was called a mistrial.
Speaker B: Emmanuel was back in Court in: Speaker B:This time the jury came back with a not guilty after hearing all the supporting evidence that Cameron was Arpana's killer.
Speaker B: Emmanuel was released in: Speaker B:He's suing the county for wrongful detainment.
Speaker B:Cameron has never been charged for involvement in Arpana's murder.
Speaker A:It's been 17 years now since Arpana Janaga was brutally murdered in her own apartment.
Speaker A:There has been no justice for the 24 year old who had such a bright future ahead of her.
Speaker B:You know, Carmina, I kind of feel that Emmanuel was guilty along with Cameron and maybe another man.
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker A:Oh, definitely.
Speaker A:I mean, DNA for one, doesn't lie.
Speaker A:And there's so much evidence.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know about this Emmanuel guy, but there was so much evidence against Cameron that he definitely wasn't involved.
Speaker B:Well, the DNA, like you said, doesn't lie.
Speaker B:And Emmanuel's DNA was on the duct tape that covered her mouth.
Speaker B:It was also around her neck.
Speaker B:Yeah, like, I also think Cameron had a hand in it, too.
Speaker B:Why is he calling her at 3:00am?
Speaker A:Definitely.
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Speaker A:Stay alert, stay vigilant, and always keep your head on a swivel.
Speaker G:Hey, everyone, My name is Raven and I'm the Host of Rogue Darkness in this Halloween special episode, courtesy of the Amazing Dark Cast Network, I wanted to discuss the unsettling case of a small cult from Sonora, Mexico, known for their dedication to Santa Muerte, also known as Saint Death, a deity in Mexican folklore, and how the cult committed horrific murders as ritualistic sacrifice to their deity.
Speaker G:So now let's start off from the very beginning.
Speaker G: born in hermosillo, Sonora in: Speaker G:It's been reported that Sylvia's family lived in poverty within a poor neighborhood of Nacazare de Garcia municipality in Sonora.
Speaker G:At just the age of 16, Silvia gave birth to her first son, Ramon Omar Palacios Moran.
Speaker G:She would then go on to have three more children with her first husband, Martine Baron Lopez.
Speaker G:The children were Yvonne Martin Francisca Magdalena and Georgina Guadalupe Baron Moraz.
Speaker G:When Sylvia was 29 years old, she had her last child, her daughter, who she named Sylvia Yahara.
Speaker G:Facing struggles throughout her entire life, Sylvia ultimately became convinced that she could and would receive financial help from deities if she offered the ultimate sacrifice, life.
Speaker G:It was at that time that Sylvia decided she needed to perform human sacrifices in order to gain the favor and help of her personal revered deity, Santa Muerte, also known as Saint Death.
Speaker G:Motivated by her delusional ideas of presumed power and the potential of gaining gaining financial help from the other side, Sylvia orchestrated the sacrifices with the other individuals who ultimately joined her cult, which ended up including four of her five, Ramon Omar, Francisca, Magdalena, Georgina Guadalupe and Sylvia Yahara.
Speaker G:Along with her children, there was also Sylvia's father, Cipriano Moraz, her partner at the time, Eduardo Sanchez, and also another woman named Zoila Jara Santa Cruz Ariqui.
Speaker G:Together, they systematically planned out their murders to use ritualistic sacrifice as a means to gain approval and favors from Santa muerte.
Speaker G: Beginning in: Speaker G:Clotilde Romero was known by the locals as a lady who sold popular obstacles.
Speaker G:She reportedly had no close relatives, living or otherwise known, which made her an unfortunately easy target for Sylvia and the others of the cult.
Speaker G:On the day of the murder, Sylvia had told Cliatil to pick up a 20 peso note that she saw off the ground as they were walking together.
Speaker G:But unfortunately, when Clotilde bent down to pick up the money.
Speaker G:She was then swiftly struck in the neck with an axe, being instantly decapitated.
Speaker G:Decapitated.
Speaker G:Sylvie had just made her first human sacrifice.
Speaker G:Now, with Clio Tilde dead, the group made an offering of her blood to Santo Muerte in an attempt to obtain protection.
Speaker G:And then they went on to burn and bury Cleotild's body near Sylvia's family home.
Speaker G:The next murder wouldn't take place for a few months going into the next year.
Speaker G: In June of: Speaker G:Martine was also the adopted son of Sylvia herself.
Speaker G: ltimately murdered in June of: Speaker G:Sylvia reportedly had gotten the young boy drunk and then had her youngest daughter, Sylvia Yahara, who was just 13 years old at the time, stabbed Martine repeatedly for a total of at least 30 times while young Martine was still alive even after the brutal stabbing.
Speaker G:The group then held a small ritual around him where they proceeded to cut his veins and then spread his blood around an altar while he bled out.
Speaker G:The third and final victim of the cult was another 10 year old boy named Jesus Octavio Martinez Yanez.
Speaker G:He was the adopted son of Yvonne Martin Baron Marad, Sylvia's son and so was therefore Sylvia's grandson.
Speaker G: onth after Martine in July of: Speaker G:This time around, Sylvia reportedly held Jesus in front of the altar while one of her daughters brutally slaughtered him, decapitating him like the victims before him, and then draining him of his blood to spread across the altar for Santa Muerte.
Speaker G:Investigations into the crimes began after Jesus Martinez was reported missing by his mother and his mother's boyfriend.
Speaker G:Investigators looking into the missing persons case initially thought that young Jesus might have been kidnapped by a human trafficking network due to some alleged eyewitness sightings of Jesus near the Arizona border, begging in the street.
Speaker G:This theory however, was quickly ruled out due to a lack of evidence and the reliable liability of the eyewitness accounts not being very viable.
Speaker G:After two years of ongoing investigation into the missing persons case of Jesus Martinez.
Speaker G: In March of: Speaker G:The other two victims bodies were discovered shortly thereafter after in an unpopulated area not far from Sylvia's home.
Speaker G:The state police actually discovered the bodies during an unrelated investigation and were then able to tie Sylvia to the crimes.
Speaker G:Sylvia Moraz and the other seven members involved in the heinous sacrifices were arrested and brought to trial.
Speaker G:Sylvia was sentenced to 180 years in prison, while the rest of the adult cult members were sentenced to 60 years years in prison.
Speaker G:Sylvia's youngest daughter, Sylvia Yahara, was spared prison as she was just a minor at the time of the murders, and was instead sent to a youth detention center.
Speaker G:Records show that after psychological evaluations were done on Sylvia Yahara, since she had been involved in the cult since her childhood and was surrounded by it on a regular basis, she didn't view the atrocious actions performed as anything other than than normal.
Speaker G:It's truly heartbreaking how the adult members caused such delusions and distortions into the mind of such a young child to enable them to actually believe murdering another human being in such a callous manner was normal.
Speaker G:According to one of Zoila Santa Cruz's daughters, Sylvia Maraz had reportedly threatened to kill the other members if they did not partake in the brutal ritualistic crimes, which is why none of them objected to the murdering of their own family members.
Speaker G:Fear mixed with brainwashing had unfortunately persuaded them to oblige.
Speaker G:We unfortunately see this happen in many cultures, many belief systems, and no matter which deities the sacrifices are being meant for, it's still a horrific crime to have to hear about.
Speaker G:May the innocent lives lost be never forgotten.
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Speaker G:On your way out.
Speaker B:The chains may try to keep you here.
Speaker B:We hope you enjoyed this Halloween special.
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